In the beginning of the season, you told me that Gary viewed her as a forever queen. And always the president in his eyes. Their only daughter, Catherine Meyer, was born in 1994. Julia and Tony said those scenes were difficult to shoot, just knowing the history between the characters and that they as actors were saying goodbye to this onscreen relationship as well, even though Gary didnt realize it. Even though I think Selina is a little bit anti-Semitic, shes not nearly as anti-Semitic as the entire Trump administration, so its hard to compete.. After all the sacrifices Gary has made for Selina the Labor Day and trash-bag mysteries are so dark, viewers never even got the details the presidential candidate picks her trusted body man as the fall guy in the Meyer Fund investigation and Gary is arrested by the FBI as Selina is accepting the nomination at her partys convention. Not the way they talked about it, no., Its related to Selinas off-camera miscarriage, revealed in Season 1s Full Disclosure. Its hard to imagine it being something that they had already talked about. I can't imagine the amount of work that that woman had done to her face. The Murder of Selena occured on March 31, 1995 after Selena was shot to death by Yolanda Saldivar (who was the president of her fan club) Selena's death received international attention and the public reaction to it was compared to those that followed the deaths of John Lennon, Elvis Presley and John F. Kennedy. She just reduces him to a puddle of a man. I feel like the possibility of Jonahs impending death would be just as nerve-racking as all the times Quinn was in danger. Did she ever find out that he was alive, and did he close out any shady deals at her funeral?Id like to think at some point, they had contact, or she probably had to give him some more money at some point. I loved it, because it was obviously a salute to the show, but by the way, was also proving my point, Mandel says. We do spend a lot of time thinking about the fact that shes not 100 percent terrible at her job. Im hoping that well get it in this year, but Im not sure we will. How does it feel to have Gary and Selinas relationship be the most powerful punch ofVeep? Weve been gone a year, and were back, and were not taking any prisoners. 2023 The Hollywood Reporter, LLC. Furlong, I think would be up there with Amy. Do you believe Selina felt remorse? From Austin Butler and Cate Blanchett to a potential Best Supporting Actress toss-up, see who EW thinks will win at the 2023 Oscars. I mean, the fact that he says, Im fing everything to you is just Gary would never in his wildest dreams have thought to talk to his queen that way. We should also point out that as shes kicking these people out of the office, were ending in a White House where, yes, Sue is outside, but in her inner circle, theres nobody there from the old show. They were switching over to the movie side, so the lights came up, and there was no one saying like, And now well go over here. They were taking a pause, and the pause allowed the laughter to keep rolling, and people kind of stared back at us. How did you react when you read the script? She has been riding that thing, and its brought up a lot though obviously her anger at Selena, and all of those things. Because I believe he wanted to know. ", "You look beautiful," he said, loyal to the very end that he did not know was here. Desperate to find a fall guy for her scandals with the Meyer Fund and illicit ties to the . Was the government shutdown in season 2 taking place during labor day? But I guess I have hope. WATCH. I've always assumed he was talking about finding her trash and whatever horrifying thing that was in it. Desperate to find a fall guy for her scandals with the Meyer Fund and illicit ties to the Chinese government (whom she actively courted to meddle in the election), Selina chose the best man(child) for the job: poor, naive Gary. But I think that care and that base level love is what brought him to the funeral. When we learn that Richard Splett [Sam Richardson] becomes a historic two-term president, it feels like some reward and justice in this cold, cruel world. And you start to realize shes just never really had a father figure. When watching Veep, Tony Hale can perennially be spotted over the shoulder of Julia Louis-Dreyfus starring character Selina Meyer. To me, it wasnt always about Trump, but it was the symptoms that allowed Trump to exist, and the things that he has wrought. Then when shes left alone, she starts to tear up as if shes taking stock of what she has besides this job, and the answer is nothing. He wouldve been her type. "It's kind of important actually. I agree [about Danny Chung] youd get very sick of hearing about a tank and stuff. Between Sarah Sutherlands Emmy worthy ugly crying and JLDs Emmy-winning performance, I cry from laughter every time I watch this episode. Other episodes tying for second with numerous shout-outs include Season 2s D.C. and The Vic Allen Dinner (as Eman said, It has everything: Kent being evil, Youre a meme, maam, Selina singing, the line Jolly Green Ji** Face.); Season 4s Election Night; and Season 5s Congressional Ball and Kissing Your Sister (aka Catherines documentary). Like Gary, she was in this toxic relationship with Selina. PMC Entertainment. That guy has shown his dark side way too many times (Dans resignation) and has probably done some nasty stuff during his career, Viktor Cegledi reasoned. This shouldnt be.. TVLine is a part of Penske Media Corporation. Yes, the person she had appointed to take charge of her faith-based initiativethe person who had the most faith in her, the person who did god-knows-what for her on the good ship Labor Daywould be the one to pay for all of her corruption. [It was] both a combination of starting to think, Well, weve seen a lot of variations of that before, and also this sense of: in America people were behaving very, very badly and not being punished. And maybe you see a flicker of that questioning, but it has to be batted away immediately because otherwise. Hahahaha, Brazilian fan Luiz Guilherme Romagnoli laughed. Fr nhere Informationen zur Nutzung Ihrer Daten lesen Sie bitte unsere Datenschutzerklrung und Cookie-Richtlinie. The betrayal and flash-forward outcome solidified Selinas monstrous transformation and yet, if you ask Hale, he has a surprising take on how it all played out. So much for Labor Day loyalty. All Rights Reserved. Louis-Dreyfus uses the words "pretty intense" to describe that moment. Selina has always hated the limited powers of the vice president. Yes. Hes definitely not meant for prison. That could be enjoyable. I dont remember whose idea that was, but It was a really nice distraction from the weight of what was going on. TVLINE | Were you told what happened on Labor Day to help with the subtext? TVLINE | Burning question not specifically related to this episode: Whats in Garys bag? But she wouldnt do that. 1. Labor Day is on Monday, Sept. 5. They bring up that something happened to the point where Gary will never speak of it and it stops Selina's rage mid-sentence. What did Gary do for Selina on labor day that he referenced to in season 4? At what price victory? Veep Season 7, episode 7 photo: Colleen Hayes/HBO. Dan 2.0 in a different way. Yeah. About half of those people, without provocation, also added that they'd like to know what was in the trash bag that Selina made Gary retrieve in Season 2's "Shutdown.". I think then youre sort of in Bill OReilly territory. I like to think its a credit to Armando [Iannucci, the shows creator] and the previous writers, and my current writers, that we can make you root for a terrible person. So we were actually in the sound mix of the episode when we were told this. I remember when she asked me early on in the series to break up with her boyfriend for her, because she didnt want to face it. Regardless of any of that, having taken the time off we did, Im not going to lie, I wanted to come out fighting. Because if it wasnt supposed to be happening, she would have run out and been like, What are you doing? So the second they start to correct her, she shouts them down, Get those idiots out of the office.. And so, Julia e-mailed him, and then we got back this very quick auto-response, that was like, Im traveling. I was weirdly very satisfied by it because nothing was going to wake Gary out of this abusive cycle but this.. Thatd be great. What exactly happened on Labor Day? "You realize when something like that happens, you're like, 'Oh yeah, this relationship is done. Thats the interesting flaw of her. And then [theres] the ultimate decision to give it to Jonah, which in some ways is almost as bad as the Gary thing, and Im putting it, like, a hair less. If she had asked the question, do you think would Gary have sacrificed himself? So the other nine, most of them were dramas. Then obviously they leave and shes there alone, and yeah, I think its full on anger, its full-on recrimination. And yeah, anybody who thought she should be president wasnt maybe paying attention the way they should have been. Below, Hale takes us behind the scenes of the epic clash, teases the fallout to come, and sheds light on that Labor Day riddle. Its completely void of any joy. IMDb, the world's most popular and authoritative source for movie, TV and celebrity content. Post Mortem: Tony Hale Talks Gary and Selina's Epic Clash, Sheds Light on 'Labor Day' Mystery. They sent us something when we won the Emmy. My story is that Im super bummed its over! He knows all the secrets. And were all going to missArmando. Why was it so important that Gary would be doing something so Gary-like he picks a seed out of her teeth as they are having this final conversation? And what were the alts that didnt make it? Was one of the messages of the finale, If you have been rooting for Selina all along, you chose very poorly, and were here to not-gently remind you of that?That is the wonderful thing. Disturbing. Because that moment she realized she wasnt going to have to change it to something else. She doesn't have empathy for others. So that was tricky. It's an absolutely ruthless, soulless decision, and one that leaves you in the moment wondering how much she will come to regret that. I feel like the real road not taken for him wouldve been like a childrens dentist. Thats actually kind of the perfect paring, if shes the ventriloquist and Im the dummy. This is the main character of a TV show, and you relish in her horribleness. I think he might view Selina with a little more empathy and compassion. I think hed love to go to restaurants and be able to eat, but Im not quite sure hed have a lot to say. His take? Not to compare it to addiction, but he was addicted to Selina and it takes somebody hitting the bottom to wake up, and that was Gary's rock bottom. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. 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